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Real ID's Real flaw

Thread first seen on June 18, 2010
Megalithe of Stormscale
So let me get this straight to connect with people on real ID you have to give them your account email?

and then when confirmed they see your real name?

2 things that weaken your account serucrity GREATLY

further more if a friend gets hacked

His now hacked account shows them your REAL NAME
REAL email
and who knows what else

Putting YOU and ALL your REAL ID friends at great risk.

Im a guild lead and every few days I get emails from blizz about items restorations to our vault, And last night a member was hacked and they were able to take more than was granted to their rank.

With all the HUGE security problems going on with blizz....is this really a good idea?
I have friends in game, and their names are their toon names I dont care to know their real names, why is blizz punishing us who dont need or want to share that info, but want to take advantage of t he new features.
Lothor of Silver Hand

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So let me get this straight to connect with people on real ID you have to give them your account email?

and then when confirmed they see your real name?

2 things that weaken your account serucrity GREATLY

further more if a friend gets hacked

His now hacked account shows them your REAL NAME
REAL email
and who knows what else

Putting YOU and ALL your REAL ID friends at great risk.

Im a guild lead and every few days I get emails from blizz about items restorations to our vault, And last night a member was hacked and they were able to take more than was granted to their rank.

With all the HUGE security problems going on with blizz....is this really a good idea?
I have friends in game, and their names are their toon names I dont care to know their real names, why is blizz punishing us who dont need or want to share that info, but want to take advantage of t he new features.



It's NOT Blizzard's fault that your members got hacked or correctly, compromised.

What I think they're doing wrong is this REAL ID stuff.
Zøøts of Scarlet Crusade
All I know is, if most guilds start requiring Real ID as a requirement for raiding, I'll just quit. I've no desire to give out personal information.
Megalithe of Stormscale
be it blizzards fault or not about people getting hacked, weakening security further is a huge mistake.

plus the cross faction communication destroys the dividing line in PVP realms.
Draoiocht of Cenarion Circle
If only Blizzard would come out and say that you should only share RealIDs with your real life friends and people you actually trust...
Ardath of Draenor
Make and use good passwords. A good password on an account means that it doesn't matter if they have your account name.

Use an authenticator yourself.

Don't give your Real ID to people who aren't your friends. Please note: a friend is not the same as an acquaintance, a classmate, an officemate or "some dude I know."

Stop worrying about imagined security flaws.
Trappjaw of Nordrassil

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If only Blizzard would come out and say that you should only share RealIDs with your real life friends and people you actually trust...


Yes this.

I will not be giving my info to anyone I don't know in real life.
Megalithe of Stormscale

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All I know is, if most guilds start requiring Real ID as a requirement for raiding, I'll just quit. I've no desire to give out personal information.


I agree why does it have to give out some much info. They need to rethink what this offers


Aurlia of Uldaman

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be it blizzards fault or not about people getting hacked, weakening security further is a huge mistake.

plus the cross faction communication destroys the dividing line in PVP realms.



lol idiot, i love how you go from being sincere to worried about dividing pvp realms.. shoo troll
Megalithe of Stormscale

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Make and use good passwords. A good password on an account means that it doesn't matter if they have your account name.

Use an authenticator yourself.

Don't give your Real ID to people who aren't your friends. Please note: a friend is not the same as an acquaintance, a classmate, an officemate or "some dude I know."

Stop worrying about imagined security flaws.



Again if they are hacked, then you are compromised as well to some degree, Even if they have a good pw or authenticator..it still happens.
Zøøts of Scarlet Crusade

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I agree why does it have to give out some much info. They need to rethink what this offers





This is not my fear. My fear is the majority of raiding guilds not heeding the advice of Blizzard to limiting it to IRL people and making it a requirement of some sort. As an officer of my guild, I will do my best to make sure we don't do this... but the trend could easily go counter to what Blizzard recommends.
Deathsake of Drak'Tharon
real id is for Real friend in real world. Beside, I don't think Real ID will show your friend's email.
Applle of Cenarion Circle
i have an idea

don't use it.

if you are my real friend and wish to chat you have my number.

problem solved.
Megalithe of Stormscale
http://us.battle.net/realid/faq.html

"
How will I become Real ID friends with another player?
Both players must first mutually agree to become Real ID friends. To send a Real ID friend request to another player, simply enter his or her Battle.net account name (an email address) using the Add Friend function in-game. The other player will see the pending request in their friends list, and if they accept, you will become Real ID friends with each other.
"



http://us.battle.net/realid/?rhtml=y
Applle of Cenarion Circle

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This is not my fear. My fear is the majority of raiding guilds not heeding the advice of Blizzard to limiting it to IRL people and making it a requirement of some sort. As an officer of my guild, I will do my best to make sure we don't do this... but the trend could easily go counter to what Blizzard recommends.



WHY would a guild require this?
Zøøts of Scarlet Crusade

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WHY would a guild require this?


So they could contact you even if your on another server or playing other Blizzard games is the first thing that comes to mind off the top of my head. I don't even have a problem with that in and of itself. It's the requirement of handing over personal information to do so that irks me.
Crysin of Kilrogg
Because then they can contact you if they need you for a raid even if your not in World of Warcraft. Like if your playing StarCraft 2 well they'll know your available and will start demanding you get on WoW.
Megalithe of Stormscale

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So they could contact you even if your on another server or playing other Blizzard games is the first thing that comes to mind off the top of my head. I don't even have a problem with that in and of itself. It's the requirement of handing over personal information to do so that irks me.


Personal information which could contribute to accounts being compromised giving more ways to trick people in email phishing schemes etc.

The more info they have the more likely they will snare more people
Fujinn of Greymane

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If only Blizzard would come out and say that you should only share RealIDs with your real life friends and people you actually trust...
So, I give out my RealID info to my cousins (because face it, they already know my name), and then they decide to give their out to the first random yahoos they meet. I trust them, I do not trust their friends. I don't know their friends.
Tasida of Stormrage

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If only Blizzard would come out and say that you should only share RealIDs with your real life friends and people you actually trust...


Do you actually think the majority of the people using the system will think of and/or consider that?

Do you actually think that Blizzard (or rather Activision in this case) thinks that people will actually limit their Real ID "friends" to real friends?

What motivation do you think Blizzard (Activision) might have for offering a weak platitude regarding account safety, yet failing to include basic security functionality? (Security that Blizzard (really Blizzard this time) has been insisting on for years). What reason can you think of where gathering a connected, pre-tagged list of people's real names might be a motivating factor?

Do you think it represents a responsible move by Activision to push this system live when it has such an obvious set of security flaws? Do you think that betting that people won't be stupid represents a sound business plan, betting against human nature (to ignore a problem until a given individual experiences that problem personally)?

And finally, you DO realize that you're going to be able to see all your friends friends too, don't you? You plan to only give it to people YOU trust, but do you trust all the people your friends trust?
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